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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:40 pm
by skater
Kyle wrote:Yes, it has the electronic ignition with it. I am now wandering how hard is it to connect the existing water and gas lines to the new setup. Will I have to cut the exisitng pipes and re-route them? These are just a few questions that I am going to be asking myself from now until Saturday. I maybe looking pretty desperate on Sunday. It is VERY difficult to justify $150 install fee!!
If yours is like mine (pics here), you'll have to cut the gray tubing. If you go to the plumbing stores, you should be able to find Qest-brand fittings that will work on that pipe. The other option is a crimper and the metallic bands. Outside of that, it shouldn't be a major problem to replace.

P.S. I think we've talked about this before, but you may want to consider putting in a bypass at the same time to make winterizing easier.

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:47 pm
by Alaskan
Well....it will be interesting to see if its actually a decent fit and just how much work is involved in getting there

There is very little room to work and the space is very limited, in every direction

Suburban doesn't have a mounting flange (pan) like the Atwood has...that could be a huge problem.... :!:

Suburban 6 gallon...

The Suburban 6 Gallon Water Heater measures:

# Door is 15" Wide and 15" High
# Water Heater Flange is 14 1/2" Wide and 14 1/2" High
# Cut-Out is 12 11/16'' H x 12 11/16'' W

Depth is 20 3/4.....too long to fit it there

The Suburban looks quire different...

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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:04 pm
by Alaskan
Did a little measuring on my 1991 which has the Atwood water heater like all B190's that I know of...

The cut out in the van body is 16 1/2" wide and 13" high

The door itself is 14 /2" wide and 18" wide....

I guess once Kyle removes the old Moreflo he'll figure out where he's at with the Suburban installation

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:32 pm
by Alaskan
Another problem I see with the Suburban....it looks TOO long to me for the space in the van

It looks to me like their tank is situated length-wise which is opposite the way an Atwood is built...

The depth of that area is only 18 total inches in depth...

Directly behind the tank is where the waterpump is mounted and behind that there is black plastic plumbing pipe....that takes 8' away from the depth you have to work with..

The Suburban won't fit into that space due to its depth...

Their website says it 20 3/4 deep.....won't fit Kyle

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:06 pm
by skater
Wow - I thought the two were essentially the same!

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:39 pm
by Alaskan
nope....the Suburban mounts in the cut out length-wise RJ and there isn't room to do that

The way the Atwood is manufactured the tank itself is mounted the other direction which takes up much less room

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:35 am
by Kyle
My water pump is located underneath the sink and from the rough measurments I made I believe it will fit. It sounds like this job went from easy to complicated real quick.

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:35 pm
by Alaskan
Never seen a water pump under the sink in a B190...but thats a plus for ya

Do you have that black plastic pipe in that compartment like in the picture above...??

Behind what you see in the picture thats vertical, there is another piece that runs horizontal on the floor that can't' be moved....thats a problem when depth is an issue

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:45 pm
by Kyle
I have the vertical, and I believe I have the horizontal as well. I am going tonight to look. I will take pics and measurements as well.