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How many sets of seat belts under bench seating?

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 1:57 pm
by SeaQuinn
Howdy. I have a 99 and I found two sets under the bench seat but I thought there were three. Can anybody confirm for the 97 to 99 model years? Thanks.

Re: How many sets of seat belts under bench seating?

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 2:13 pm
by twistedskipper
My '99 has only two belts behind the bench.

Re: How many sets of seat belts under bench seating?

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 9:27 pm
by jb1rd73
my 94 has 2 sets

Re: How many sets of seat belts under bench seating?

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 9:01 am
by lido14co
2 sets in our 92


Cliff

Re: How many sets of seat belts under bench seating?

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 4:15 pm
by Minniemouse
Our 190b is a 1993. We had two seat belts, but easily were able to add one more to accommodate our grandchildren.

Re: How many sets of seat belts under bench seating?

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:19 am
by usachris
2 sets of belts under the couch in our ‘99. One set on the left of the couch - near the refrigerator- and one in the center of the couch. The seat belts are bolted to the floor.

*correction — 3 sets of seatbelts under our couch.

Re: How many sets of seat belts under bench seating?

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:46 am
by mountaindent
I am pleased to say that I have two sets of seat belts which is a reassuring aspect to this 1992 camper van. Previously, I had owned a Pleasure-Way XL plus and there were no seat belts at all which concerned me when traveling with anyone sitting on the couch. While the Pleasure-Way was pure luxury I find I enjoy the B190 more because I do not worry about depreciating value(in my mind it only goes up with travel experiences). The ability to sleep one or two more people in the B190 is helpful or if a couple wants to spread out due to illness or going to bed at separate times there is that flexibility where the XL had the Murphy bed and no other living option.

Re: How many sets of seat belts under bench seating?

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:21 pm
by skater
Minniemouse sent me an email:
No time right now to log in and respond... but I wanted to WARN
everyone that the bench seat is not safe.
I posted that we had a major traffic accident in June, 2015. If anyone had been siiting on tghe bench seat they would have had major injuries or death.
We had a tire blow out, which caused the van to fall over on the road. ALL of the cabinets
attached to the passenger side wall, unattached and smashed into the bench seat. Any passengers seated on the bench seat would have had the full force of the oak cabinets hit them head on! Thankfully the van front seats are designed well. No injuries! As the driver, I had small cuts down my left arm from the tiny pieces of glass.
We HAD two original seat belts on the bench seat, and added a third so we could transport our grandchildren. NO more!
Worth considering!

Re: How many sets of seat belts under bench seating?

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:55 am
by mountaindent
That does sound like a catastrophic failure of the cabinet attachment with the potential of injury. I think sitting on the couch probably needs to be when the camper van is at rest and not traveling down the road. However, the front cab chairs feel a little wobbly to me and they have been checked and found secure. Hmmmm.

Re: How many sets of seat belts under bench seating?

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:48 pm
by okaynagan
skater wrote:Minniemouse sent me an email:
No time right now to log in and respond... but I wanted to WARN
everyone that the bench seat is not safe.
I posted that we had a major traffic accident in June, 2015. If anyone had been siiting on tghe bench seat they would have had major injuries or death.
We had a tire blow out, which caused the van to fall over on the road. ALL of the cabinets
attached to the passenger side wall, unattached and smashed into the bench seat. Any passengers seated on the bench seat would have had the full force of the oak cabinets hit them head on! Thankfully the van front seats are designed well. No injuries! As the driver, I had small cuts down my left arm from the tiny pieces of glass.
We HAD two original seat belts on the bench seat, and added a third so we could transport our grandchildren. NO more!
Worth considering!
While viewing the gallery we had come across the wreck of minneimouse and wonder if there was a story.Now we know.

One must wonder why there are seatbelts on the couch if they were not intended for passengers.

Re: How many sets of seat belts under bench seating?

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:07 pm
by skater
okaynagan wrote:
skater wrote:Minniemouse sent me an email:
No time right now to log in and respond... but I wanted to WARN
everyone that the bench seat is not safe.
I posted that we had a major traffic accident in June, 2015. If anyone had been siiting on tghe bench seat they would have had major injuries or death.
We had a tire blow out, which caused the van to fall over on the road. ALL of the cabinets
attached to the passenger side wall, unattached and smashed into the bench seat. Any passengers seated on the bench seat would have had the full force of the oak cabinets hit them head on! Thankfully the van front seats are designed well. No injuries! As the driver, I had small cuts down my left arm from the tiny pieces of glass.
We HAD two original seat belts on the bench seat, and added a third so we could transport our grandchildren. NO more!
Worth considering!
While viewing the gallery we had come across the wreck of minneimouse and wonder if there was a story.Now we know.

One must wonder why there are seatbelts on the couch if they were not intended for passengers.
Well, they were - they probably didn’t anticipate everything coming off the walls in a rollover.

Re: How many sets of seat belts under bench seating?

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:21 pm
by mountaindent
Probably for routine use the seatbelt a valuable and a minor accident situation. The rollover is a catastrophic moment probably years ago they did not even test to see if cabinets would fail or detach. I would still use them but, depends on the situation....in town twists and turns perhaps...high speed interstate driving caution I might contemplate.

Re: How many sets of seat belts under bench seating?

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:21 pm
by skater
mountaindent wrote:Probably for routine use the seatbelt a valuable and a minor accident situation. The rollover is a catastrophic moment probably years ago they did not even test to see if cabinets would fail or detach. I would still use them but, depends on the situation....in town twists and turns perhaps...high speed interstate driving caution I might contemplate.
Yeah...and let's face it, being able to advertise 4 seat belts doesn't hurt, even if they are practically useless.

Re: How many sets of seat belts under bench seating?

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 7:42 pm
by mountaindent
and, this post after the couch was removed...where I carefully cleaned and made sure the seat belts were identified, functional and detailed to make sure they looked good.

Re: How many sets of seat belts under bench seating?

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 1:39 am
by usachris
I can’t believe it but as I was upgrading and repositioning my battery bank, I discovered another set of seatbelts under the couch!

So there are enough seatbelts in my ‘99 for 5 occupants. 2 in front and 3 on the couch.